Friday, January 28, 2011

From An Astute Commenter On Orly Taitz' Website

Hehe
http://www.examiner.com/birther-movement-in-national/full-faith-and-credit#comment-14031121

or the full text of my response to this idiot Bill Bowman, as follows:-

Oooops ——– Problems!

First.
A Hawaiian COLB must be based on a ‘CERTIFICATE on file’ in the HDOH.
So far it appears that no such CERTIFICATE exists.
Ask Gov Abercrombie.
Second.
(let’s pretend the COLB was issued by HDoH – albeit apparently without a certificate on file)
An authentic COLB is a ‘part thereof’ (according to HRS 338-13
But a ‘part thereof’ is EXCLUDED from ‘being considered for all purposes the same as the original’
It is ONLY an image copy or ALL the contents of a ‘CERTIFICATE on file IN the department’ that is ‘considered for all purposes the same as the original’.
ALL ‘the contents’, because of the mention of ‘part thereof’ as one of the three ‘certified copies’ that shall be issued.
Hawaiian Revised Statutes.
§338-13 Certified copies.
(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant
a certified copy of any certificate, or
the contents of any certificate, or
any part thereof.
(b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.
(c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]
The COLB would be unacceptable under the ‘full faith & credit’ clause.
Had the legislators who authored HRS 338-13 sought to include a ‘part thereof’ COLB, then they would have simply said for (b) ‘All such certified copies shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original’
But they didn’t.
Only an image copy or ALL the contents, certified by the department, shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original.
The COLB is a fake anyway, because there is NO CERTIFICATE in the department to start with.
Getting nervous?

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