Monday, October 5, 2009
MORE FROM SANTA ANA...
Let me say that the writing is and was on the wall! You could see Carter was carefully covering his butt as he listened to the arguments from the 3 government lawyers and Orly Taitz. It became apparent as the morning wore on that he really doesn't want this case. After telling the world that the case would be decided on the merits...why the change of heart? Now all he could talk about was jurisdiction, standing and political question doctrines.
Gary Kreep showed up late, claiming car trouble. It is obvious that Taitz and Kreep do not see eye to eye and Kreep missed no opportunity to get in zingers against Orly which I fond unnecessary and counterproductive.
Carter asked the government basically by what mechanism can Obama be removed? The government said ONLY Congress can do it...either by impeachment or under the 25th amendment where applicable. Carter would nod his head in agreement. The government was vehement that Carter had no authority over the issue.
I can't say that Carter wasn't fair...he listened attentively and was courteous but he seemed to have taken a different view of the case, focusing on technicalities and seemingly forgetting he had told everyone that he wanted this case resolved, for both sides and the country. On Sept.8 he acknowledged that it was not a good situation for the country to be in and hat was why he wanted to get the case on the fast track. Why did he set a trial date in January? What changed? I have no doubt he is going to throw this case out and it will cost us a minimum of one year - easily a one year delay!
I saw Roger West, lead attorney for the government outside the courthouse posing for pictures. He had a big smile on his face. This was definitely a victory for the Obots. More delay means Obama has more time to take a stranglehold on the people and tear up more of our precious Constitution.
I heard West happily say something to the effect that "...we are the winning team." I shot back at him that if you win...the country loses. He just walked away with his other two guns for hire.
MORE TO COME>
Gary Kreep showed up late, claiming car trouble. It is obvious that Taitz and Kreep do not see eye to eye and Kreep missed no opportunity to get in zingers against Orly which I fond unnecessary and counterproductive.
Carter asked the government basically by what mechanism can Obama be removed? The government said ONLY Congress can do it...either by impeachment or under the 25th amendment where applicable. Carter would nod his head in agreement. The government was vehement that Carter had no authority over the issue.
I can't say that Carter wasn't fair...he listened attentively and was courteous but he seemed to have taken a different view of the case, focusing on technicalities and seemingly forgetting he had told everyone that he wanted this case resolved, for both sides and the country. On Sept.8 he acknowledged that it was not a good situation for the country to be in and hat was why he wanted to get the case on the fast track. Why did he set a trial date in January? What changed? I have no doubt he is going to throw this case out and it will cost us a minimum of one year - easily a one year delay!
I saw Roger West, lead attorney for the government outside the courthouse posing for pictures. He had a big smile on his face. This was definitely a victory for the Obots. More delay means Obama has more time to take a stranglehold on the people and tear up more of our precious Constitution.
I heard West happily say something to the effect that "...we are the winning team." I shot back at him that if you win...the country loses. He just walked away with his other two guns for hire.
MORE TO COME>
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Let's assume that Judge Carter (1) fervently does not want this case -- meaning he wishes he didn't have it, (2) lacks political passion on this issue one way or the other, and (3) will do what's best for Judge Carter (which is not meant to negate him).
ReplyDeleteHe faces enormous pressures and problems either way he goes. And, to the extent he may have a feeling toward one side or the other, I think he would want to mask that as much as possible before making such a monumental decision, either way -- so I don't think him letting Team Obama feel they were winning or Team Orly/Kreep feel they were losing is telling one way or the other. (Perhaps he felt a need to moderate the positive inklings Orly/Kreep were manifesting after his September ruling.)
So the bottom line, while Judge Carter either does not want the case or wants to make it appear that he does not want the case, it will boil down to which presents him the greatest problem, taking the case or not taking the case. In other words, he is likely aware of the revolutionary restlessness growing around the nation which would be exacerbated by his declining the case set against the pressures and problems he'll personally confront in taking the case.
Time will tell.
And what happens when Republican Bobby Jindal tries running in 2012, maybe even getting in as a VP candidate? He may have been born in the country, but his parents had not yet been naturalized; they were not U.S. citizens when he was born. This isn't a political question, it's a constitutional question that needs to be addressed by the courts: what is a natural-born citizen? Let it run through the courts; make discovery and let's uncover the unpleasant truths that remain hidden.
ReplyDeleteGranted, Judge Carter's court can't make a final determination; it'll have to run up through the court system and even perhaps acted upon by Congress after discovery. But let's resolve this very serious constitutional question.
Leon Brozyna
CW2, USA (Ret)
It was only near the end that Judge Carter apparently learned that impeachment is not an option. This should set his mind straight. I believe he wanted to let this go to impeachment route, but no dice. He needs to keep it going as he must feelnow, that he covered his tracks.
ReplyDeleteSince the Judge allegedly made the statement that this is a unique case and that he did not have precedent to guide him then what could he use for a basis to dismiss? And whatever he uses now it would seem could be appealed based on that former reasoning he spoke of. If he rules that the defendants' argument is true, then it is no longer a "unique" case since he's basically saying that this president is legal and can only be impeached by congress as they argue. In such a ruling he would be stating that Obama is legitimate without even knowing the proof of such that can only come through further discovery. It's really impossible for him to rule such without looking ethically challenged.
ReplyDeleteBobby Jindal won't be running for ANYTHING in 2012. Last November's election was the last one in this country. Martial Law (and probably attacks on major American cities, as well as World War III) will occur LONG before next November.
ReplyDeleteCarter was either A) threatened personally / his family threatened OR B) told the same thing told to Congress, the Supreme Court, and all the other judges hearing Obama eligibility cases -- something along the lines of nuclear bombs being planted in U.S. cities, that will be detonated if Obama is removed from office.
Prepare yourselves for the worst. It's coming soon.
Thanks for the sticker with your site address today in court as I wasn't aware of giveusliberty. I was sitting in the row right behind you, next to the wall.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your assessment of the hearing and cut and pasted one of your summary paragraphs to save time and sent it to friends and family that knew I was attending the hearing(and I atrributed it to you and enclosed your site address. I'll be checking back to watch for Judge Carter's ruling, as I'm sure that you'll be one of the first to know.