Monday, July 25, 2011
The Excessive Randomness of Fast and Furious
Something isn't being disclosed here. We the general public are being fed a fairy tell about Fast and Furious. There's more to it, got to be.
The present story paints a sting operation with the supposed best of intentions, going unexpectedly bad. An innocent under thought-out half baked scheme. Sorry, I'm not buying the simplicticness of it.
What we are learning, straw buyers were recruited by Cartel front men, to approach various gun stores, and purchase serialized weapons that were on an ATF playlist of guns the FBI/ATF wanted to get into the hands of the Cartel.
As a straw buyer was sent into a store to fill a specific "weapon order", the seller would have the buyer fill out a federal firearm purchase questionnaire that ALL gun purchasers must fill out. The store then calls in the information, using a seller ID, and provides the SSN, drivers license number,etc of the buyer. Upon approval the sale is finalized. The call ins are random, so obtaining a "certain" FBI approval clerk could not be relied upon to receive the transaction by F and F planners. The computer database could red flag certain weapon serial numbers and generate a clerical alert. But what would that do to differentiate a buyer, from a straw buyer? The straw buyers would have to be using phony ID's. Okay so what, the illegals have been doing that for years. The difference is, the ATF/FBI would have to know in advance, which phony IDs they should alert on. How would they know that, unless the IDs were ATF/FBI supplied and given to Cartel front men, OR ATF/FBI agents posing as Cartel front men?
The straw buyer after obtaining the weapons, would then give the weapons to their "Cartel" handler, receive a buyers fee, and await the next purchase. Meanwhile the handler turns over the weapons to a southbound border crosser.
So if the "handlers" were actually Cartel connected, that would mean the ATF/FBI was providing the cartel handler directly with IDs for their straw buyers. Now how many Cartel crooks are willing to use specific IDs that they know nothing about or where they came from, and not be suspicious of a law enforcement sting? Better yet, why would they care about specific IDs, when the randomness of using straw buyers in the past has worked just fine for them in the past, without major incident. Unless they knew the ATF/FBI was sanctioning the buys. But then what about the future, wouldn't a Cartel agent be concerned his cartel connection had been blown and would be subject to future arrest for other crimes by working for the FBI? Not likely.
The "Handlers" must then have been ATF/FBI. They would have to have recruited the straw buyers, giving them fake IDs, placing the orders, providing the purchase cash, and setting off an intentional data base alert . Once the guns were in hand, a Cartel mule would be needed to transport the order to the Cartel. Would that be an undercover agent acting as a mule or a genuine Cartel mule? Does the Cartel deal with unfamiliar traffickers? Doubtful. Somebody in he Cartel hierarchy would have to vouch for them, and who they got the gun shipment from.
The implication to me says, the ATF/FBI were working directly with the Cartel. The FBI "undercover" agents were unlikely local operatives because it would have been apparent to them what was going on, which was a direct deal with the Cartel.
The "handlers" would have had to have been hand picked DOJ ATF/FBI sycophants, having knowledge aforehand that the true operational objective of Fast and Furious was a 2nd amendment political gun control maneuver. And yes it was a direct deal with the Cartel. The Cartel would get guns paid for by US taxpayers, and Obama would get another gun ban 2nd amendment rant.
Steve
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Feds Silent on How Convicted Felons Bought Guns in 'Operation Fast and Furious'
The present story paints a sting operation with the supposed best of intentions, going unexpectedly bad. An innocent under thought-out half baked scheme. Sorry, I'm not buying the simplicticness of it.
What we are learning, straw buyers were recruited by Cartel front men, to approach various gun stores, and purchase serialized weapons that were on an ATF playlist of guns the FBI/ATF wanted to get into the hands of the Cartel.
As a straw buyer was sent into a store to fill a specific "weapon order", the seller would have the buyer fill out a federal firearm purchase questionnaire that ALL gun purchasers must fill out. The store then calls in the information, using a seller ID, and provides the SSN, drivers license number,etc of the buyer. Upon approval the sale is finalized. The call ins are random, so obtaining a "certain" FBI approval clerk could not be relied upon to receive the transaction by F and F planners. The computer database could red flag certain weapon serial numbers and generate a clerical alert. But what would that do to differentiate a buyer, from a straw buyer? The straw buyers would have to be using phony ID's. Okay so what, the illegals have been doing that for years. The difference is, the ATF/FBI would have to know in advance, which phony IDs they should alert on. How would they know that, unless the IDs were ATF/FBI supplied and given to Cartel front men, OR ATF/FBI agents posing as Cartel front men?
The straw buyer after obtaining the weapons, would then give the weapons to their "Cartel" handler, receive a buyers fee, and await the next purchase. Meanwhile the handler turns over the weapons to a southbound border crosser.
So if the "handlers" were actually Cartel connected, that would mean the ATF/FBI was providing the cartel handler directly with IDs for their straw buyers. Now how many Cartel crooks are willing to use specific IDs that they know nothing about or where they came from, and not be suspicious of a law enforcement sting? Better yet, why would they care about specific IDs, when the randomness of using straw buyers in the past has worked just fine for them in the past, without major incident. Unless they knew the ATF/FBI was sanctioning the buys. But then what about the future, wouldn't a Cartel agent be concerned his cartel connection had been blown and would be subject to future arrest for other crimes by working for the FBI? Not likely.
The "Handlers" must then have been ATF/FBI. They would have to have recruited the straw buyers, giving them fake IDs, placing the orders, providing the purchase cash, and setting off an intentional data base alert . Once the guns were in hand, a Cartel mule would be needed to transport the order to the Cartel. Would that be an undercover agent acting as a mule or a genuine Cartel mule? Does the Cartel deal with unfamiliar traffickers? Doubtful. Somebody in he Cartel hierarchy would have to vouch for them, and who they got the gun shipment from.
The implication to me says, the ATF/FBI were working directly with the Cartel. The FBI "undercover" agents were unlikely local operatives because it would have been apparent to them what was going on, which was a direct deal with the Cartel.
The "handlers" would have had to have been hand picked DOJ ATF/FBI sycophants, having knowledge aforehand that the true operational objective of Fast and Furious was a 2nd amendment political gun control maneuver. And yes it was a direct deal with the Cartel. The Cartel would get guns paid for by US taxpayers, and Obama would get another gun ban 2nd amendment rant.
Steve
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Feds Silent on How Convicted Felons Bought Guns in 'Operation Fast and Furious'
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