Thursday, March 11, 2010
Harry's Blunder
I was going to write an article about Reid's blunder, but the comment below which I came across does a good job.
The only thing I would add, is apparently Harry Reid has made a large mistake by thinking the procedural order was XZY instead of XYZ under reconciliation. It wouldn't be the first time a major figure got it wrong in public. Obama misinterpreted the Supreme Court's ruling during the State of the Union.
The wrangling in Congress is over Obama's expectation for them to vote for the Senate version of ObamaCare without changes, so it can be sent to the White House for signature. Once signed ObamaCare would become a law. Not being given a chance to make changes is giving many in Congress pause. Several are asking themselves if indeed the Senate under reconciliation, could or would be inclined to include a ban on Federally funded abortions, since abortion funding was included in the Senate version at Obama's behest.
Obama known to employ any means to justify his ends,already expects Congress to walk the plank for the bill, why would he be concerned if the Congress got screwed by the Senate? What if the Senate decides they don't want to reconcile anything, plus they've got a built in cop out that only monetary items are subject to reconciliation. Language that calls for banning governmental funds spent for abortions would be considered a policy issue and therefore untouchable.
It is being reported Democrat lobbyists are saying the odds of passage out of the House as is, is now at 2 to one against. Let's see if that holds.
Steve
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On March 11th, 2010 at 6:10 pm, DesertLover said:
As I have pointed out in previous posts on this you cannot “reconcile” a law that does not exist … Obamacare has not been passed and signed yet … until BO signs something it is still just a bill … the Prez signature is the item that takes a bill and makes it a law … once it is a law then it can be modified or reconciled …
The House has to pass the Senate Bill exactly as written … no changes whatsoever … then BO has to sign it into law … then the Senate can start “reconciliation” … only items in the bill that are “tax” and “budget” related can be addressed through reconciliation … everything else … such as abortion, mandates, etc., etc., are considered “policy” and therefore are not able to be changed through reconciliation … period …
House Dems are being played for fools on that point if they think they can get that changed as part of the process …
In fact … once the Prez signs it … the Senate could tell the House to pack sand and not even consider any changes and the House could not do a thing about it …
The only thing I would add, is apparently Harry Reid has made a large mistake by thinking the procedural order was XZY instead of XYZ under reconciliation. It wouldn't be the first time a major figure got it wrong in public. Obama misinterpreted the Supreme Court's ruling during the State of the Union.
The wrangling in Congress is over Obama's expectation for them to vote for the Senate version of ObamaCare without changes, so it can be sent to the White House for signature. Once signed ObamaCare would become a law. Not being given a chance to make changes is giving many in Congress pause. Several are asking themselves if indeed the Senate under reconciliation, could or would be inclined to include a ban on Federally funded abortions, since abortion funding was included in the Senate version at Obama's behest.
Obama known to employ any means to justify his ends,already expects Congress to walk the plank for the bill, why would he be concerned if the Congress got screwed by the Senate? What if the Senate decides they don't want to reconcile anything, plus they've got a built in cop out that only monetary items are subject to reconciliation. Language that calls for banning governmental funds spent for abortions would be considered a policy issue and therefore untouchable.
It is being reported Democrat lobbyists are saying the odds of passage out of the House as is, is now at 2 to one against. Let's see if that holds.
Steve
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On March 11th, 2010 at 6:10 pm, DesertLover said:
As I have pointed out in previous posts on this you cannot “reconcile” a law that does not exist … Obamacare has not been passed and signed yet … until BO signs something it is still just a bill … the Prez signature is the item that takes a bill and makes it a law … once it is a law then it can be modified or reconciled …
The House has to pass the Senate Bill exactly as written … no changes whatsoever … then BO has to sign it into law … then the Senate can start “reconciliation” … only items in the bill that are “tax” and “budget” related can be addressed through reconciliation … everything else … such as abortion, mandates, etc., etc., are considered “policy” and therefore are not able to be changed through reconciliation … period …
House Dems are being played for fools on that point if they think they can get that changed as part of the process …
In fact … once the Prez signs it … the Senate could tell the House to pack sand and not even consider any changes and the House could not do a thing about it …
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