Sunday, August 26, 2012

Mario Apuzzo Schools Obot Poster About Founders’ Utilization of Vattel on Natural Born Citizenship

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Mario Apuzzo Schools Obot Poster About Founders’ Utilization of Vattel on Natural Born Citizenship
An Obot clown was attacking someone else’s posting about Vattel in a blog comments session in the Daily Pen: http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/07/hawaii-now-refuses-to-validate-obamas.html?showComment=1345867467858#c5547409602438520195
Then, Mario Apuzzo, Esq. (see his blog: puzo1.blogspot.com), arguably the Dean of presidential eligibility crusader-attorneys, slapped him on the side of the head with his response, which follows Smrstrauss’ posting, below…..

You are quoting Vattel, but there is no evidence that the writers of the US Constitution followed him. He is not even mentioned once in the Federalist Papers, while the common law was mentioned about twenty times.And the Wong Kim Ark decision was AFTER the Minor vs Happersett decision, and hence would have overturned it (if the Minor vs Happersett decision was actually a ruling on the matter, and it isn’t. It is merely dicta). And the Wong Kim Ark decision ruled six to two (one not voting) that the meaning of Natural Born comes from the common law (thus NOT from Vattel), and that it refers to the PLACE of birth (not the parents), and that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is Natural Born.THAT is why Meese had that quotation in his book. It corresponds to a ruling of the US Supreme Court. It does not differ from the ruling of the Supreme Court.’
 Mario Apuzzo, Esq.’s response ….
Smrstrauss at July 29, 2012 5:38 PM,  
You made the following statements which I quote.  My responses follow: 
1.  “You are quoting Vattel, but there is no evidence that the writers of the US Constitution followed him.”
You are wrong.  I have explained in my briefs to the courts and on my blog that the historical record shows that the Founders and Framers looked to Vattel for their ideas on natural law and the law of nations.  These fundamental laws, and not the English common law, were incorporated into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, foundational documents of our republic.
The Founders and Framers did not look to Vattel only in a general way on natural law and the law of nations, but also specifically for their definition of a “natural born Citizen.”

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