Sunday, January 9, 2011
While We Are On The Subject Of Oath Taking
Sessions and Fitzpatrick are sorry for any inconvenience they "may" have caused. "May"? I'd say DID cause. You don't vote period unless you are are official, end of story. Besides what is the message being sent here by these two buttheads? Attending a reception in their honor takes precedent over getting sworn in?
My mommy and daddy stopped setting my priority schedule for me around about the 1st grade. I got it. There were minor mistakes along the way, but missing something as important as a swearing in ceremony---never. I got to my finals on time, paid my taxes by the 15th, had my voters registration card in hand at the polls. But these two wonder if they "may" have caused a problem voting 6 times while they were illegal. "May" doesn't cut it, they did cause a problem and deserve an official censure at the least. I'd say a forfeiture of pay and a damn large fine is in order too perhaps a couple weeks in jail wouldn't hurt either.
Okay you can go back to the Cspan tapes of the House en masse oath taking ceremony to see for your self or take my word on it, but Sessions and Fitzputz aren't the only ones to not recite the oath, the full oath.
As the camera was panning the House, when Boehner got to the official oath part, "So help me God" the camera was on the left side of the aisle and I noticed a few reps stop reciting when that section was given. So their oath and votes are invalid as well.
Here is an excerpt which according to Article 6 REQUIRES this oath to be taken, the full oath, not some parts of the oath that you agree with.
Steve
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At the start of each new Congress, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate are sworn into office. This oath-taking dates to 1789, the first Congress; however, the current oath was fashioned in the 1860s, by Civil War-era members of Congress.
The Constitution specifies no details for the oath of office for Congress:
Constitution, Article 6 - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
The first Congress developed this requirement into a simple, 14-word oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."
The Civil War led President Lincoln to develop an expanded oath for all federal civilian employees (April 1861). That July, when Congress reconvened, "members echoed the president's action by enacting legislation requiring employees to take the expanded oath in support of the Union. This oath is the earliest direct predecessor of the modern oath." (cite)
The current oath was enacted in 1884:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
The public swearing-in ceremony consists of Representatives raising their right hands and repeating the oath of office. This ceremony is led by the Speaker of the House, and no religious texts are used. Some members of Congress later hold separate private ceremonies for photo ops.
My mommy and daddy stopped setting my priority schedule for me around about the 1st grade. I got it. There were minor mistakes along the way, but missing something as important as a swearing in ceremony---never. I got to my finals on time, paid my taxes by the 15th, had my voters registration card in hand at the polls. But these two wonder if they "may" have caused a problem voting 6 times while they were illegal. "May" doesn't cut it, they did cause a problem and deserve an official censure at the least. I'd say a forfeiture of pay and a damn large fine is in order too perhaps a couple weeks in jail wouldn't hurt either.
Okay you can go back to the Cspan tapes of the House en masse oath taking ceremony to see for your self or take my word on it, but Sessions and Fitzputz aren't the only ones to not recite the oath, the full oath.
As the camera was panning the House, when Boehner got to the official oath part, "So help me God" the camera was on the left side of the aisle and I noticed a few reps stop reciting when that section was given. So their oath and votes are invalid as well.
Here is an excerpt which according to Article 6 REQUIRES this oath to be taken, the full oath, not some parts of the oath that you agree with.
Steve
++++++++++++
At the start of each new Congress, the entire House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate are sworn into office. This oath-taking dates to 1789, the first Congress; however, the current oath was fashioned in the 1860s, by Civil War-era members of Congress.
The Constitution specifies no details for the oath of office for Congress:
Constitution, Article 6 - Debts, Supremacy, Oaths
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
The first Congress developed this requirement into a simple, 14-word oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States."
The Civil War led President Lincoln to develop an expanded oath for all federal civilian employees (April 1861). That July, when Congress reconvened, "members echoed the president's action by enacting legislation requiring employees to take the expanded oath in support of the Union. This oath is the earliest direct predecessor of the modern oath." (cite)
The current oath was enacted in 1884:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.
The public swearing-in ceremony consists of Representatives raising their right hands and repeating the oath of office. This ceremony is led by the Speaker of the House, and no religious texts are used. Some members of Congress later hold separate private ceremonies for photo ops.
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